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ale_udine
Pulcino

Italy
72 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2010 :  09:37:31  Show Profile  Visit ale_udine's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I buy a mio 400 and install lk 8000 without problems, and it works fine.
Now I need your help for cable connection:
i cannot find a mini-usb to serial cable RJ145....
Do you know where i can find it?
for the serial and install a com port, i need to some drivers in windows CE of the pda?
How is possible that the same cable can give power supply?

Paolo, Can you exlpain for all of us step by step the question?
Thank's for your beautiful work!

cernauta
Pterodattilo

802 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2010 :  17:10:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ale_udine

Now I need your help for cable connection:
i cannot find a mini-usb to serial cable RJ145....



It's not quite that simple. The cable must inclose a "serial rs232 to TTL converter", plus (if you think you need it) a power adapter from 12 to 5v.

I just ordered a TTL converter on ebay for a few euros, then I'll have to give it the needed 3,3 volts, then I'll connect a 5v adapter for the PNA.

I think someone will come up with a functional, ready solution, which will cost the in the range of 50-100 Euros, given past experience. See the unit on sale at www.glidertools.com (which is not recommended for the MIO as it relies on bluetooth for serial connection).


aldo cernezzi
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Marco from Hangar 5
Pterodattilo

Netherlands
891 Posts

Posted - 27/09/2010 :  17:43:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have a look here:

http://www.k6-team.de/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=108&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

The "Anschlussboard" is maybe what you need:

http://www.k6-team.de/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=ilvm_fly_showroom_mall.tpl&product_id=175&category_id=112&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

Serial to TTL is not required because the MIO400 has a serial port over the USB connector (if I have it understood correctly)

Right now I have a Power data converter in my glider, its connected with the 12V power system, and provides 12V power to the Colibri, and 5V power to the Ipaq, and data coming from the colibri is also fed into the Ipaq via this same power/data converter. Works very well, and I think you need something similar for connecting your GPS with your MIO 400 the same way.. as far as I can see the "Anschlussboard" can do exactly that.

Regrettably the supplier of the power/data supply I have is no longer in business (Adriaan Oudhuis, Netherlands).

Marco
BU (PH-588)
Mini Nimbus HS7, s/n 039
http://www.zweef.nl/
Zweefvliegcentrum Noordkop, NETHERLANDS
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GliderTools
Pulcino

Czech Republic
71 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  02:30:44  Show Profile  Visit GliderTools's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello friends!
The equipment what you are looking will be available soon:
http://www.glidertools.com/news/rs-232-o-usb-converter-with-12-5v-switching-power-supply/

Please be patient as my son had a bad car accident and now I have different worries, so the work is stopped for a few days...
Vladimir

GliderTools
www.glidertools.com
info@glidertools.com
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modellbobby
Aquilotto

323 Posts

Posted - 28/09/2010 :  11:51:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Vladimir,

i whish your son all the best. God bless!
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ale_udine
Pulcino

Italy
72 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  16:12:50  Show Profile  Visit ale_udine's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thank's at everyone for the help!
I will wait for the production series of the magic object:
http://www.glidertools.com/news/rs-232-o-usb-converter-with-12-5v-switching-power-supply/
Alessandro
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icenix
Pterodattilo

Switzerland
930 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  16:25:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought this

http://www.imi-gliding.com/en/ipaq-power-supply-with-datatransfer.html

I hope it helps.

Roberto Nivini -- HB-1942 V1
ACAO Calcinate
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cernauta
Pterodattilo

802 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  16:36:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by icenix

I bought this

http://www.imi-gliding.com/en/ipaq-power-supply-with-datatransfer.html

I hope it helps.



Sorry...
i don't think it will work the a PNA... There's no TTL levels conversion in this device.

aldo
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modellbobby
Aquilotto

323 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  16:38:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sure they have TTL Converter!
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Berto
Pterodattilo

Italy
1286 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  18:01:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about the doubt raised by Marco from hangar 5?
The "serial over USB" has standard RS232 levels or is it really a TTL?
I'd like to know for sure.
Then if you would like to build your own TTL converter you can try and search the Maxim Max232 or Max233 circuits, which do just this.

Marco Bertoluzza
AVM Voghera

... intanto mettilo a terra, poi parliamo dopo ...
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GliderTools
Pulcino

Czech Republic
71 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  18:15:26  Show Profile  Visit GliderTools's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi all! This module what I prepare for production, of course contains RS232 to TTL convertor with IC MAX232. Contains also miniature 5V switching power supply to power the PNA/PDA.
Printed circuit boards already has been entered into production.
Vladimir

GliderTools
www.glidertools.com
info@glidertools.com
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icenix
Pterodattilo

Switzerland
930 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  18:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cernauta

quote:
Originally posted by icenix

I bought this

http://www.imi-gliding.com/en/ipaq-power-supply-with-datatransfer.html

I hope it helps.



Sorry...
i don't think it will work the a PNA... There's no TTL levels conversion in this device.

aldo



From their site:
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mini-USB 5pin connector with data connection (HP PNA iPAQ314 and compatible)

Kabel USB-RS232
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Roberto Nivini -- HB-1942 V1
ACAO Calcinate

Edited by - icenix on 30/09/2010 18:50:38
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AM20
Pulcino

Canada
6 Posts

Posted - 30/09/2010 :  22:13:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi All I am using a Mio M400 which I have just purchased. All is running well with LK8000. Has anyone hooked up their MIO with an EW Micrologger? The EW alrady has a power converter from 12 volt to 5 volt and data can be transfered via a RJ connector I think. Would be interested in hearing of anyones experiance. Thanks Alf
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cernauta
Pterodattilo

802 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2010 :  00:53:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

From their site:
---
mini-USB 5pin connector with data connection (HP PNA iPAQ314 and compatible)

Kabel USB-RS232
---




ah, this is not the same link I have watched. Then, you're right.
To answer another question in the thread: yes, the MIO m400 needs a TTL converter.

Aldo
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Berto
Pterodattilo

Italy
1286 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2010 :  15:47:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How much would a cable like that cost?
It seems I will try M400 very soon.

Marco Bertoluzza
AVM Voghera

... intanto mettilo a terra, poi parliamo dopo ...
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icenix
Pterodattilo

Switzerland
930 Posts

Posted - 01/10/2010 :  19:01:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Berto

How much would a cable like that cost?
It seems I will try M400 very soon.



Ciao,

here http://www.imi-gliding.com/en/ipaq-power-supply-with-datatransfer.html you can find a link to the price list.

You can buy single parts or a set with a little discount.

They are very slow on answering to email (several days) but very fast in sending goods.

Roberto Nivini -- HB-1942 V1
ACAO Calcinate
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